The case of Raymond Davis and Pakistan-US relations

American diplomat Raymond Davis shot two men on January 27 in Lahore if he was threatened by them. He is in detention in Pakistan. According to U.S. State Department he should be released immediately as he enjoys diplomatic immunity. But there is a growing rumor in Pakistani media Davis was a spy and he shot two agents of Inter-Services Intelligence. Some update of this post is here.

Question:

Do you think this case could have some serious impact on the Pakistan-US relations, and why?

Answers:

Touqir Hussain, Former Senior Diplomat from Pakistan, having served as Ambassador to Brazil, Spain and Japan, Adjunct Professor, Georgetown University

Yes there will be short term tensions but no long term damage.The person will have to be released. Fall out will be for the Pak government domestically not so much in the US Pak relations.

C. Christine Fair, Assistant professor in the Center for Peace and Security Studies, Georgetown University

The incident is symptomatic not causal and he is the unfortunate “whipping boy” of deep anger with the United States. Last summer a US Embassy employee hit and killed a Pakistani young man while driving drunk. Had he been less concerned about getting to the embassy and more concerned with the young man he hit and then drug with his car, the boy may not have died. He was whisked away before dawn.

In this case, Pakistan is in the wrong. But in the other cases, the US clearly was operating with impunity in a country where the residents are already pretty fed up with the United States.

Chris Ogden, Lecturer in Asian Security, University of St. Andrews

In the short term, where this story has perhaps the most saliency is per the widespread opposition to ongoing US activities in Pakistan that are illegal – primarily drone attacks.  Although remote-controlled outside Pakistan, these attacks do impinge on Pakistani security, and most critically Pakistani sovereignty.  The sense of these actions being extra-judicial (and with US soldiers themselves being immune from international prosecution), have clear parallels with the case of Ray Davis, and can help explain why he is being prosecuted.

Although the effect of this case may be a certain frostiness in the short-term, I really don’t see this case having a significant long-term impact – ties between the two states are very deep concerning military aid and although there are clear problems between the two (distrust over Pakistani attitudes to terrorism and proliferation, the US’s use of drones as above – to name but a few), the US’s predominant interests (in Afghanistan) I think will take precedent.  In this sense, the prosecution of Ray Davis may be something to placate the Pakistani public domestically (or to openly voice Pakistani official disquiet), rather than to noticeably affect Pakistan-US relations. That said however, the US will not tolerate the prosecution of their diplomats, which in itself breaks a well-established and followed norm of international diplomacy.

Stephen Cohen, Senior Fellow, Foreign Policy, The Brookings Institution

Yes, relations are strained across every dimension—much of the ‘business’ the US and Pakistan conduct is covert, their operations in Afghanistan and ours in Pakistan, meanwhile Pakistan has lost control over terror groups in its own country, and the Paks are disappointed with US support across the board Still, a  break would be costly, so these crises (such as the US diplomat) create great strains. I can’t predict the future on this.


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7 Responses

  1. Diplomatic Internantional laws have been forwarded in defence of Mr Davis….unfortunately no diplomat is covered under diplomatic immunity if the diplomat commits or gets in volved in crimes including murder and gunfights etc….
    There is much more to this case than what we are being told in public…..however a fact is very cleear….Pakistani Public servants and politicians who may have to eventually release this man under pressure from the US will meet the same fate as the late assasinated governor of Punjab province……there is no way out for mr Davis unless he himself confessess to the crime comes clean and gets the defined punishing sentence from the court and then can be transported back to the US to serve out the sentence…..this is the only scenario or option available

    • Pakistani Public servants and politicians who may have to eventually release this man under pressure from the US will meet the same fate as the late assasinated governor of Punjab province. Do you predict this kind of outcome or do you support it? If you support this, it is insane.

  2. News Update Driver who killed Ibad-ur-Rehman reaches US, driver of the vehicle held the same diplomatic visa as Raymond Davis
    For More Full and Updated News Details Visit
    http://www.dunyanews.tv

  3. امریکی شہری ریمنڈ ڈیوس نے پاکستا نی لوگوں کو کیا کتے بلّی سمجھ لیا تھا جوانکو یوں راہ چلتے مار دیا اس شخص کو ضرور سزا ملنی چاہیے اور پاکستانی حکومت کو بھی اس کا سخت نوٹس لینا چاہیے ورنہ کل کو کوئی بھی غیرملک سے آکر خود ساختہ سفیر بن کرہمارے لوگوں کو مار کراستثنیٰ کی تلوار لہراتا اپنے ملک بھاگ جاےگا. ایک اور بات جو میں کہتا چلوں کے بطور ایک غیرتمند قوم ہمیں چاہیے کے ہم بھی مقتولین کے خاندانوں کی کفالت کی ذمے داری اٹھائیں تا کہ وہ لوگ مجبور ہو کر دیت قبول کر کے قاتل امریکی کو معاف نہ کر دیں. اسی لئے میں نے سوچا ہے کے میرے پاکستانی بھائیوں اور بہنوں آگے آؤ اور اس نیک کام میں حصّہ ڈالو اور مقتولین کے خاندانوں کی مدد کے لئے ہر شخص صرف 1 روپیہ دے مثال کےطورپرآپکے گھر میں 10 افراد ہیں تو آپ صرف دس روپے مقتولین کے خاندانوں کی مدد کے لئے دیں اس طرح سولہ کروڑ روپے جمع ہوں گے جو ہم پانچ کروڑ تینتیس لاکھ تینتیس ہزارروپے کے حساب سے فی خاندان دے سکتے ہیں اوراس کونہ خیرات سمجھ کر دیں نہ زکواہ، بلکہ آپکی صرف یہ نیت ہو کہ ایسا وقت کل کو کسی پر بھی آسکتا ہے- میرے خیال میں عمران خان صاحب اگر یہ مہم شروع کریں تو بہت اچھاہو سب سے پہلے میں آگے آتا ہوں اور میں ایکہزار روپے دیتا ہوں 10 میرے گھر والوں کی طرف سے اور باقی 990 ان کی طرف سے جو 1 روپیہ بھی نہیں دے سکتے . اس نیک کام کے دو فائدے ہوں گے
    ١ . مقتولین کے خاندانوں کو دیت لینے کی ضرورت نہیں پڑے گی جس سے ان کی عزت نفس اور ہماری قومی غیرت بھی برقرار رہے گی
    ٢. پاکستانیوں اگر آج یہ مجبور اورلاچارخاندان دیت لیکرچپ کرگئےتوکل کو کوئی بھی باہرسے آکر تمہاری اولادوں کو مار ڈالے گا اور دیت کے نام پر پیسے دیکر چلتا بنے گا تو آؤ ہم سب ملکر ایک قوم ہونے کاثبوت دیں اور دنیا کو بتا دیں کے ہم بکاؤ مال نہیں

  4. Raymond Davis, who shot dead two men on a Lahore street, triggering a diplomatic crisis between Pakistan and the United States, is a CIA agent who was on assignment at the time of the incident.
    for more details visit
    http://www.dunyanews.tv

  5. […] U.S. officials confirmed Raymond Davis is a security contractor working for CIA Posted on 21/02/2011 by matisak See here. Is it a game changer? For previous post about the case of Raymond Davis see here. […]

  6. Raymond Davis Case: Use of mobile and internet in jail challenged
    The Lahore High Court in order to ban use of mobile and internet for Raymond Davis in the Kot Lakhpat Jail has written to the federal government demanding their clarification by the 14th of March.
    For Full Story Visit
    http://www.dunyanews.tv

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